Was just listening to the news where Alex, 'the self-appointed spokesman' was featured. I am really surprised that Walgampaya doesn't remind the Australians about the last 'self-appointed saviour' of the Tamils.

Alex's 'cost' is 'carst' and his 'asked' is definitely American. Sri Lanka must find out who this guy is.

On the other hand, the government must get rid of the camps because, even though these asylum seekers had nothing to do with the camps, the world is focussing its attention on the camps. Just like the world responded to the discriminatory district basis in the 70s & July 83, and sympathised with separatists, the camps are proving to be a focal point for Tamil claims of discrimination. The camps are bad for Sri Lanka, just like the district basis & July 83 were bad for SL.

Here's a related article:

http://www.island.lk/2009/10/18/news2.html

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An authoritative official told The Sunday Island that Sri Lankan investigators should be given access to the detainees to establish their true identity. He acknowledged that this could be a touchy issue in view international criticism of Sri Lankan forces over alleged atrocities committed during Eelam War IV.

The 'authoritative official' must tell his story to the Indonesian and AUstralian authorities, and not the Island! Where is Palitha Kohona?


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wesley to rm7000, Only thing I don't understand is why did they wait so long.  Why didn't these fairly rich Tamils try to migrate as refugees when the LTTE was around and the war was going on?

This is not a difficult question.  You call them 'fairly Rich'  this means they were rich when LTTE was there and may be they were made to understand LTTE will succeed in getting the mono ethnic state Eelam.  Now the LTTE has gone, they became helpless.

Now, information leaks out that LTTE operarives, based in Malasiya, were running this smuggling operation.

kkk123 wrote:

On the other hand, the government must get rid of the camps

If we start intervening to this bogus refugees, we will be like LTTE tying to take care of the Tamil population.  Camps perhaps started with good intentions is biting Sri Lanka's back big time because of the noise Diaspora is making.

If you are rich and have connections with right places, you can be small and ignore the voices of over 20 million in Sri Lanka.


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It is interesting to note that the very large Tamil diaspora in Australia have not started large scale demonstrations or hunger strikes in Australia, either to plead that Australia takes in these refugees or to protest the Australian government refusal to accept these refugees.  

It tends to give the impression that the diaspoara in general, do not care for the welfare of  the average SL Tamil citizens but instread are more interested in the concept of a separate state or are motivated by trying to take revenge for the 83 riots.

wesley wrote:

It is interesting to note that the very large Tamil diaspora in Australia have not started large scale demonstrations or hunger strikes in Australia, either to plead that Australia takes in these refugees or to protest the Australian government refusal to accept these refugees.  

It tends to give the impression that the diaspoara in general, do not care for the welfare of  the average SL Tamil citizens but instread are more interested in the concept of a separate state or are motivated by trying to take revenge for the 83 riots.

They are perhaps waiting to see how SEXY this case will become.  I have a feeling that the media will not play this well in Australia since most of the people are sick and tired of boat people.  Of cause none of them care about the welfare of average people.  The whole conflict is NEVER humanitarian driven.


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What will the Aussies or Indonesians do now ? Deporting these folks may
become counterproductive; their desperate baggage will be tough on home country.
These folks are already on the edge, risking their lives and blowing out their lifetime savings.
For the folks who have already "paid" their lifetime savings, conditional
asylum should be granted as a one-time thing and the modus operandi of the whole
plan be investigated fully. They should tighten the patrolling and
bust the human smuggler chains to reduce the occurrence of these
desperate outings. An international hunt for these chains should be launched.


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If the people are faking that they are from Sri Lanka, and they do get send back to Sri Lanka, imagine the double jeopardy they will be in.


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listen to the accent of this asylum seeker.
definitely not Sri Lankan english accent.  sounds like american accent to me.

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4939Read

Negombo wrote:

listen to the accent of this asylum seeker.
definitely not Sri Lankan english accent.  sounds like american accent to me.

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4939Read

Sounds like two Aussies speaking  


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perl says:

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If the people are faking that they are from Sri Lanka, and they do get send back to Sri Lanka, imagine the double jeopardy they will be in.

No perl, the reality is that most SL Tamils who seek political asylum succeed because they meet UN criteria for asylum. That is why I have been trying to change the way people like you, Proxy and Dammika think. Idi0ts like PO can shout from rooftops, but reality is something we all have to face sometime or the other - just like Prabhakaran had to.

You may not remember what happened in the 70s, but I am living through it all right now. If things continue like this, SL will again be the friendless country once again.

Can we be happy about it? Can we be proud about it?

It is pretty obvious that Alex is bogus. But every time I try to explain it to my Australian friends I get a look of disbelief with the unspoken statement that I am saying so because I am Sinhalese. The truth is that we are fast losing whatever credibilty we have left.


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do we know if most of the asylum seekers
are IDPs/campers ?

If so the SL officials can get direct and
assure them of help. All the aid that is coming
in should be channelled to lower this grievance.

Regarding folks running via human smuggling
channels, nothing will work. They would run out
even if things were to be normal.


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rm, no one knows for sure whether they are from SL or not.  It appears they had been in TN and possibly form IDP camps recently created by the govt.

rm7000 wrote:

do we know if most of the asylum seekers
are IDPs/campers ?

If so the SL officials can get direct and
assure them of help. All the aid that is coming
in should be channelled to lower this grievance.

Regarding folks running via human smuggling
channels, nothing will work. They would run out
even if things were to be normal.

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kkk123 wrote:

perl says:

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If the people are faking that they are from Sri Lanka, and they do get send back to Sri Lanka, imagine the double jeopardy they will be in.

No perl, the reality is that most SL Tamils who seek political asylum succeed because they meet UN criteria for asylum. That is why I have been trying to change the way people like you, Proxy and Dammika think. Idi0ts like PO can shout from rooftops, but reality is something we all have to face sometime or the other - just like Prabhakaran had to.

You may not remember what happened in the 70s, but I am living through it all right now. If things continue like this, SL will again be the friendless country once again.

Can we be happy about it? Can we be proud about it?

It is pretty obvious that Alex is bogus. But every time I try to explain it to my Australian friends I get a look of disbelief with the unspoken statement that I am saying so because I am Sinhalese. The truth is that we are fast losing whatever credibilty we have left.

kkk, your response is  a wrong one for the statement I made.
As for UN criteria, do you trust UN here?
So, you don't think Sinhalese don't fit in to that as well?

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Idi0ts like PO can shout from rooftops

Come on, the last thing that I call anyone here is an profound genius including you.

I don't know what happened in the 70s. I know the early JVP uprising during that time and that was with SInhalese.


There is nothing that I can be happy and proud except getting rid of LTTE.


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perl,

Thx, that's possible too. I'll watch for updates to see if
someone (official) from TN is commenting on this.

Also, the SL refugees in TN number in lakhs
and they too are not in significantly better
 shape. They may have easily mixed with locals and
hence may not be complaining much.
Wonder what Karunanidhi is doing about all this.
He should first depute an internal delegation to
oversee their condition.

perl wrote:

rm, no one knows for sure whether they are from SL or not.  It appears they had been in TN and possibly form IDP camps recently created by the govt.

rm7000 wrote:

do we know if most of the asylum seekers
are IDPs/campers ?

If so the SL officials can get direct and
assure them of help. All the aid that is coming
in should be channelled to lower this grievance.

Regarding folks running via human smuggling
channels, nothing will work. They would run out
even if things were to be normal.

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*I am not the only one*