Xinhua,  Tue Mar 27 23:46:58 EDT 2007

    The Sri Lankan government said Tuesday that it is still open to have talks with the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) despite the latter's aerial attack on the country's main military base on Monday.

Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama told reporters here that the government's meeting with the LTTE "has been independent of all incidents."

Bogollagama said Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapakse is very positive for a negotiated settlement to the island country's ethnic issue.

"Our offer to talk with the LTTE is very old and the offer is still there," said the foreign minister.
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Forget talking to LTTE. Put forward a devolution proposal which can be accepted by the moderate leaders and peace loving singhalese+tamils+muslims and let the security forces handle LTTE.

The Academic wrote:

Xinhua,  Tue Mar 27 23:46:58 EDT 2007

    The Sri Lankan government said Tuesday that it is still open to have talks with the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) despite the latter's aerial attack on the country's main military base on Monday.

Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama told reporters here that the government's meeting with the LTTE "has been independent of all incidents."

Bogollagama said Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapakse is very positive for a negotiated settlement to the island country's ethnic issue.

"Our offer to talk with the LTTE is very old and the offer is still there," said the foreign minister.
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okay okay

the condition is?

har wrote:

Forget talking to LTTE. Put forward a devolution proposal which can be accepted by the moderate leaders and peace loving singhalese+tamils+muslims and let the security forces handle LTTE.

as expereince suggests, the sinhala polity is not interested in finding a solution.

it is all cheap talk.

let them put the offer on the table first.

the all party conference came up with something.

but, that sounds too much to mahnda.

what can you do?

A negotiated solution is possible to solve the country's ethnic issues
But an all out war is necessary to flush out the Tiger leadership and defeat terrorism.
These are two different things!

Any talks must be with the legitimate leaders of the Tamil people and not with the Terrorists.

But the armed forces must have a strategy and a time line to achieve its goal; the goal being destroy the terrorist leadership without trace.
Unfortunatlley it does not appear to have any such intentions. All the signs indicate that the so called war is nothing but a wealth creating strategy - oh I mean for some.

this war will never be fought with the correct intentions due to the massive corruption in the forces and the political system, therefore we all are just wasting our time trying to see light at the end of the tunel but instead its the train thats heading towards the sri lankans

Elara wrote:

A negotiated solution is possible to solve the country's ethnic issues
But an all out war is necessary to flush out the Tiger leadership and defeat terrorism.
These are two different things!

Any talks must be with the legitimate leaders of the Tamil people and not with the Terrorists.

But the armed forces must have a strategy and a time line to achieve its goal; the goal being destroy the terrorist leadership without trace.
Unfortunatlley it does not appear to have any such intentions. All the signs indicate that the so called war is nothing but a wealth creating strategy - oh I mean for some.

U mean Doulas, A Sangaree , Sithdhardan , Karuna ...... what a fantastic idea !

NO TALKS. NO WAY. GET rid of NORWAY.

DR.No wrote:

NO TALKS. NO WAY. GET rid of NORWAY.

Yes yes this is the short cut become another somaliya soon !

har wrote:

Forget talking to LTTE. Put forward a devolution proposal which can be accepted by the moderate leaders and peace loving singhalese+tamils+muslims and let the security forces handle LTTE.

Well said.Chinthana & Co keep on taking about the proposal which was never materialized so far. They send the bunch of jokers to India to study a system (unfortunately I couldn't remember the name of it) to come up with the workable model for this never ending problem. So far the ministers are talking about releasing the model but nothing is put forward in the table. Why the politicians are buying time to address the boiling issues? Are they benefited by this war? What about a penalty system for delaying the solution to this boiling issue like every month reducing the security personal provided to these jokers by one or two. Will this type of severe penalty expedite them to take action?
The present corrupted system is as such the brunt of the war is absorbed only by the poor people regardless of whether they are Sinhalese. Tamil or Muslim. Whether there is a bomb blast or the price hike it has least implications to the politicians. So they are least bothered about the country or the people. We have to do something.
If there is a acceptable solution the LTTE would have disappeared or dissolved by now. It is there because still the grievances persist among the people. The reality is LTTE will never die until such time an acceptable proposal is implemented in SL. MIG or KAFIR will not wipe off LTTE.

Elara wrote:

Any talks must be with the legitimate leaders of the Tamil people and not with the Terrorists.

WHo is the legitimate leader representing the Tamil people. Such leaders are quite after the execution of Ravi Raj (I don't need to tell you taht it was executed by the SL government). Govt is keeping some jokers like Ananthasankay, EPDP fellows and call them as the reprsentative of tamils.

shanas wrote:

har wrote:

Forget talking to LTTE. Put forward a devolution proposal which can be accepted by the moderate leaders and peace loving singhalese+tamils+muslims and let the security forces handle LTTE.

Well said.Chinthana & Co keep on taking about the proposal which was never materialized so far. They send the bunch of jokers to India to study a system (unfortunately I couldn't remember the name of it) to come up with the workable model for this never ending problem. So far the ministers are talking about releasing the model but nothing is put forward in the table. Why the politicians are buying time to address the boiling issues? Are they benefited by this war? What about a penalty system for delaying the solution to this boiling issue like every month reducing the security personal provided to these jokers by one or two. Will this type of severe penalty expedite them to take action?
The present corrupted system is as such the brunt of the war is absorbed only by the poor people regardless of whether they are Sinhalese. Tamil or Muslim. Whether there is a bomb blast or the price hike it has least implications to the politicians. So they are least bothered about the country or the people. We have to do something.
If there is a acceptable solution the LTTE would have disappeared or dissolved by now. It is there because still the grievances persist among the people. The reality is LTTE will never die until such time an acceptable proposal is implemented in SL. MIG or KAFIR will not wipe off LTTE.

Elara wrote:

Any talks must be with the legitimate leaders of the Tamil people and not with the Terrorists.

WHo is the legitimate leader representing the Tamil people. Such leaders are quite after the execution of Ravi Raj (I don't need to tell you taht it was executed by the SL government). Govt is keeping some jokers like Ananthasankay, EPDP fellows and call them as the reprsentative of tamils.

wel said "shanas"

[quote="shanas"]

har wrote:

Forget talking to LTTE. Put forward a devolution proposal which can be accepted by the moderate leaders and peace loving singhalese+tamils+muslims and let the security forces handle LTTE.

Well said.Chinthana & Co keep on taking about the proposal which was never materialized so far. They send the bunch of jokers to India to study a system (unfortunately I couldn't remember the name of it) to come up with the workable model for this never ending problem. So far the ministers are talking about releasing the model but nothing is put forward in the table. Why the politicians are buying time to address the boiling issues? Are they benefited by this war? What about a penalty system for delaying the solution to this boiling issue like every month reducing the security personal provided to these jokers by one or two. Will this type of severe penalty expedite them to take action?
The present corrupted system is as such the brunt of the war is absorbed only by the poor people regardless of whether they are Sinhalese. Tamil or Muslim. Whether there is a bomb blast or the price hike it has least implications to the politicians. So they are least bothered about the country or the people. We have to do something.
If there is a acceptable solution the LTTE would have disappeared or dissolved by now. It is there because still the grievances persist among the people. The reality is LTTE will never die until such time an acceptable proposal is implemented in SL. MIG or KAFIR will not wipe off LTTE.




A very good analysis by Shanaz.

As long as we have politicians who are interested in filling up their pockets and taking the public for a ride with lot of statements----  this conflict will continue.

Politicians and top brass officials are getting richer day by day ,,,Where as the poor man suffering with sky rocketing prices of commodities..... are made poorer day by day.

Even after 25 years of war GOSL couldn't wipe out LTTE with military means. So many governments have changed,  no govt. could do any thing to tackle this conflict.

Until genuine and viable solution is put forward this will dragon.... end sufferes are the public - tamils, sinhalese & muslims.

Politician bashing is our national pastime.

Please note that it was LTTE who walked out of talk last time. What the government has iterated is that the initial offer to talk is still on the table if LTTE make its mind to pick it up. Meanwhile, SLA, SLN and SLAF is helping LTTE to make that decision. Putting a solution forward as har has mentioned is very important. But we have to keep in mind that there was a rushed solution in 1987 in the guise of provincial councils. All provinces except north and east now have the "solution" implemented. Then again, we have a CFA signed in a hurry. Though it is defunct, the document has lot of clauses favourable to LTTE.  Considering what actually has happened in the past, I don't see any thing wrong in taking time to come up with a solution, a solution that appeals to all communities in SL.  As for the CFA, I personally think the government should walk away from the CFA now to negotiate a new one in future if the necessity arises: a new CFA that outlines a time frame for de-escalation and demilitarizing LTTE.

Senevi wrote:

Politician bashing is our national pastime.

Please note that it was LTTE who walked out of talk last time. What the government has iterated is that the initial offer to talk is still on the table if LTTE make its mind to pick it up. Meanwhile, SLA, SLN and SLAF is helping LTTE to make that decision. Putting a solution forward as har has mentioned is very important. But we have to keep in mind that there was a rushed solution in 1987 in the guise of provincial councils. All provinces except north and east now have the "solution" implemented. Then again, we have a CFA signed in a hurry. Though it is defunct, the document has lot of clauses favourable to LTTE.  Considering what actually has happened in the past, I don't see any thing wrong in taking time to come up with a solution, a solution that appeals to all communities in SL.  As for the CFA, I personally think the government should walk away from the CFA now to negotiate a new one in future if the necessity arises: a new CFA that outlines a time frame for de-escalation and demilitarizing LTTE.

It is True that LTTE walked out last time. Why they did so?No one talk about the reason behind this.They simply told the SL government don't talk any more just implement the agreement we have reached in the past;Mainly disarmament of paramilitary and operation of SHIRAN (I hope I spelled it correctly)That was the demand putforward by the LTTE at that time to move forward in the negotiation. Isn't it a reasonable ground to walk out? Pls correct me if I am wrong.

shanas wrote:

It is True that LTTE walked out last time. Why they did so?No one talk about the reason behind this.They simply told the SL government don't talk any more just implement the agreement we have reached in the past;Mainly disarmament of paramilitary and operation of SHIRAN (I hope I spelled it correctly)That was the demand putforward by the LTTE at that time to move forward in the negotiation. Isn't it a reasonable ground to walk out? Pls correct me if I am wrong.

Do you really want me to list the atrocities committed by LTTE from 2001 to 07. There is a statement from SLMM with some figures. The UTHR postings outlined many during this period. But the government did not walked out. One after the other government stated that it is committed to talks to find a negotiated solution. Do you consider unloading shiploads of weapons and small aircrafts during the CFA is legal and allowed by the CFA?  SL government has disarmed the military groups in cleared areas soon after the CFA. Karuna factor came into play long after that and it was an internal affair of LTTE according to LTTE. It was only when LTTE leadership realize that Karuna is a bigger threat than expected they put it forward to the government.

If LTTE is committed to a negotiated peace they should learn the meaning of the word "negotiation". It means you are prepared to give in some of the demands in return of some. What has LTTE given-up up to now?  Even there is no pledge of disarmament after the negotiated peace.  It acts like the Shylock who always walks away with the pound of flesh. Is it reasonable to walkout on the demand of disarmament of rival groups? No!