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The Academic
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 Sri Lanka's peace deal collapses over party defections
afp, Tue Jan 16 21:00:12 EST 2007
COLOMBO (AFP) - A landmark deal between Sri Lanka's ruling party and the main opposition to bring a political solution to the island's ethnic conflict collapsed as fighting escalated, officials said.Opposition leader Ranil Wickremesinghe met President Mahinda Rajapakse and urged him not to bring opposition lawmakers into the cabinet, a move the party has said would wreck the deal, but the request was turned down, a top official source said
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:00 am |
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Velusumana
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 .......cross ovres........
If the President can take Susantha Pu.... on to his side, any other . is acceptable.
With these cross overs it appears that JVP is unhappy, and also Ranil's UNP is not happy.
How about JVP joining UNP (or UNP joining JVP) ?
In today's SL political arena anything is possible.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:45 am |
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Preman Rajadurai
Joined: 02 Oct 2005
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I told Rohini a few weeks ago in this column
There is no light and there are no tunnels!!!!!
How true here we go again !!!!!Unable to solve anything.But pseudo academics from their comfortable seats in the western world just attack anybody who wants to solve these for the betterment of the country.Attack Dr Jehan,Dr Radhika,Prof GL,Tissa Vitarna,and anybody who has achieved anything ,while being in Sri Lanka.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:14 am |
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systemx
Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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 Whatever happened to 'country comes first' ?
The question is not why, but why now? If someone has a problem with the party leader, then by all means challenge the party leadership and elect a new leader. Crossing over at this stage and risking the MOU is downright irresponsible. As RW says, it is unethical for MR to offer inducements to cross over, when Ranil agreed to work with the govt in good faith. Whatever happened to Mahinda Rajapakse and his “good governance”?? No wonder this country is cursed.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:11 am |
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hitheshi
Joined: 12 Jun 2006
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 Politics better off from Sri Lankan Affairs
When will Independent commissions on Bribery, Equal Opportunity Commission, Police Commission, Legal Reforms Commission be active.
All public money going to politicos coffers. To many politicians. Sri Lanka will bloom again when number of politicos are slashed.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:56 am |
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kkk123
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Quote:If someone has a problem with the party leader, then by all means challenge the party leadership and elect a new leader
Systemx, you make a very valid point there. If the challenge against the party leader does not succeed, that is because a majority is for the leader. If so, be democratic and go along with the majority, at least for the time being until you can convince a majority of party members that the leader is no good.
More than anything else, Karu J & Co. are damaging their own credibility (ie those who have any credibility left) by crossing over after the party voters elected them under the PR system. They may cite prior examples (some of them like GL can cite themselves in a previous life), but crossing-over was unethical then and it is unethical now.
The President is obviously wearing the Emperor's new clothes and is fooling himself that he is not exposed. Sadly, among those who are surrounding him, there isn't one honest soul - not even a small child.
For Ranil too, it is time to ask himself whether he wants to take the party to total ruination. What a shameless position is it for a party leader to go and request his opponent not to take disgruntled members who are leaving his own party? He could have pre-empted the whole cross-over plan, if he offered to step down for the party to elect a new leader or a new leadership team. Strangely enough Moragoda who led the campaign to retain Ranil as the leader after the Nov 2005 election, is also in the cross-over group.
This exposes a weakness in our justice system too. If members elected under the PR system can leave the party for personal gain and still retain their seats in parliament, what does it say about the justice system?
Even if all the corrupt dishonest shameless nit-wits pretending to lead SL are bunched together, the collective brain power is less than that of a teenager.
We need the collective brain power of a team of wise old men to outsmart Prabhakaran and his clan. One can only repeat systemx:
Quote:No wonder this country is cursed.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:10 am |
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TARGET
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Systemx you are correct as a matter of fact the curse occurred in 1970 those who can think and had the talent left the country without an opportunity to pass over to next generation.
Then came 1977 introduced Executive Presidency those who can not make executive desisions on matters of national interest can come to power on popular vote. It changed from separation of powers to concentration of power. How can one man make all the decisions in such a complex society? Those who rob the exchequor for private gain are not accounable.Present system is a mathematical fraud. Country can not afford the up keep of numerous ministers on this political game. You need only 9 ministers with real talent for 9 provices and 22 members for 22 districts. The saving on this will help to develop the rest of the country with an effective bureaucracy and independent judiciary. It appears only Ananda Sagaree has the vision and decency to conduct a national debate on various issues for the common good. Voters should be educated by presenting real facts.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:26 am |
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Negombo
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
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 Re: Sri Lanka's peace deal collapses over party defections
APRC backfired, MR was cornered with a devolution plan in hand.
how else it could be sabotaged ?
Now he can blame RW.
we, voters don't deserve anything better than punnakku.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:34 pm |
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RogerThis
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 Cross Overs and Ranil getting a dose of his own medicine
All MR is doing is using the powers of his Presidency to bribe MPs. RANIL should LEARN that from the sordid history of his Uncle's regime. JR bought MPs and then Ranil also tried to pass legislation which would have only allowed opposition MPs to cross over to his government when he was PM with the opposite not being allowed. It was tossed out only when the SC deemed it unconstitutional and not only that anyone with any commonsense would say that was preposterous. SO Ranil cannot feel sorry for himself when part of this ugly mess is very much the creation of this ugly all powerful constitution his UNCLE JR and his UNP ghouls created.
Not that it will solve anything but as an old timer, I say good for you Ranil, you and JR played games with people's lives and made a mockery of democracy with your rigged referendums and you are getting a dose of your own medicine. Remember how when you became PM you wanted to change the constitution one way to only allow PA MPs to cross? Touche'
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vishvajith
Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Well said Negombo.
No worries Srilanka, we can solve our unemployement problem by sending our young to die for a noble cause. What a waste of human talent. Apoi Apoi, kata kiyannada.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:34 pm |
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hardX
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 Re: Cross Overs and Ranil getting a dose of his own medicine
RogerThis wrote:All MR is doing is using the powers of his Presidency to bribe MPs. RANIL should LEARN that from the sordid history of his Uncle's regime. JR bought MPs and then Ranil also tried to pass legislation which would have only allowed opposition MPs to cross over to his government when he was PM with the opposite not being allowed. It was tossed out only when the SC deemed it unconstitutional and not only that anyone with any commonsense would say that was preposterous. SO Ranil cannot feel sorry for himself when part of this ugly mess is very much the creation of this ugly all powerful constitution his UNCLE JR and his UNP ghouls created.
Not that it will solve anything but as an old timer, I say good for you Ranil, you and JR played games with people's lives and made a mockery of democracy with your rigged referendums and you are getting a dose of your own medicine. Remember how when you became PM you wanted to change the constitution one way to only allow PA MPs to cross? Touche'
I full agree.
Apparently some people believed this deal would hold the ground well and upset for not going through. You guys probably were born few days ago since you have no idea how SL politics work.
We don’t have a productive culture where achievements are well recognized.
It is like, what is in it for me if this get approved?
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:22 pm |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Quote:If someone has a problem with the party leader, then by all means challenge the party leadership and elect a new leader
But the UNP constitution doesn't allow this. Ranil, like Kim IL Sung of North Korea, is leader for life.
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| Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:27 pm |
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mawrata
Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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Those UNP, MPs who want to cross over to MR are not doing it for the love of the country. If they are real patriots, they would not be asking for portfolios before they join the government. They know very well future looks very bleak for them, if they hang around RW any longer. MR definitely will be elected for a second term and he needs the strength to counter act JVP and do whatever he likes with the help of these crooks. Plus any dirt that might be hidden could be sealed unnoticed when you are stronger and Mahinda chintanaya will be a thing of the past. He will give into LTTE and allow them to control North and Karuna will control the East followed by a Muslim uprising. He must be thinking an easy way out of this problem so that he can enjoy the good life of a President. At the end people will say what a wastage of those young lives in the armed forces including LTTE and Karuna faction and innocent civilians. JVP will be the only voice that will remain as a watch dog to expose any wrong doings by the government. It remains to be seen whether JVP will gain more popularity or fade away from Sri Lanka's political scene.
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hitheshi
Joined: 12 Jun 2006
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 Re: Cross Overs and Ranil getting a dose of his own medicine
[quote="hardX"][quote="RogerThis"]All MR is doing is using the powers of his Presidency to bribe MPs. RANIL should LEARN that from the sordid history of his Uncle's regime. JR bought MPs and then Ranil also tried to pass legislation which would have only allowed opposition MPs to cross over to his government when he was PM with the opposite not being allowed. It was tossed out only when the SC deemed it unconstitutional and not only that anyone with any commonsense would say that was preposterous. SO Ranil cannot feel sorry for himself when part of this ugly mess is very much the creation of this ugly all powerful constitution his UNCLE JR and his UNP ghouls created.
Not that it will solve anything but as an old timer, I say good for you Ranil, you and JR played games with people's lives and made a mockery of democracy with your rigged referendums and you are getting a dose of your own medicine. Remember how when you became PM you wanted to change the constitution one way to only allow PA MPs to cross? Touche'[/quote]
I full agree.
Apparently some people believed this deal would hold the ground well and upset for not going through. You guys probably were born few days ago since you have no idea how SL politics work.
We don’t have a productive culture where achievements are well recognized.
It is like, what is in it for me if this get approved?[/quote]
Well said HardX, exactly. In Sri Lanka one who sleeps and one who works tirelessly get the same pay same benefits. People are not worried about the main System of the Country. In countries acceped as developed, people maintain the System of the country, they get the reward back. Sri Lanka needs to have a dynamic system minus Country full of politicians. If not, Sri Lanka will be able to export only idling Politicos who eat up public money.
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kkk123
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Quote:Opposition leader Ranil Wickremesinghe met President Mahinda Rajapakse and urged him .....
Fabulous pair we have, to pull the country out of the mess.
If the pair is tied on to a bullock cart and asked to pull it, they will be pulling in opposite directions and fighting each other.
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