yahoo/HT,  Fri Mar 31 21:56:10 EST 2006

    SRI LANKAN President Mahinda Rajapaksa's visit to Pakistan, beginning on Friday, has an important message for India, political observers here say.Informed sources say that one of the main aims of Rajapaksa's visit was to send a message to India: that if it did not help Sri Lanka militarily, the latter might approach Pakistan for help.

The power vacuum in Sri Lanka would be filled by Pakistan. "Will India want it?". That's is a question Sri Lankans ask. Sri Lanka's move is expected to set New Delhi wondering if it is doing the right thing by indefinitely postponing a decision on signing a Defence Cooperation Agreement with Sri Lanka, and not moving boldly on aiding the reconstruction and modernisation of the Palaly airport cum airbase in Jaffna. The 80-member delegation accompanying Rajapaksa has top representatives of the defence, finance and trade ministries.
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- The Academic

Not only Pakistan, but the whole SAARC region should get together to send the message to the terrorists that there are better ways to solve problems. In the meantime, we should get together to influence the regional Governments that democratic values should be reinforced more, so that people with problems will get a chance to raise their issues way before it comes out in less  democratic forms.

Call it with a small change:
Not only Pakistan, but the whole SAARC region should get together to send the message to the GOSL that there are better ways to solve problems (than begging for militar help).

Initiate a solution before devlop military. If you find a solution then no need of the arm business.

Dear ACA,

Normal people will understand Democratic solutions. We already have given a lot of solutions for the education, health, food etc., for them. Do you know that the GOSL did not stop supporting the whole education and health system amidst all these terror work of the LTTE? That is for the normal people who desrve it. But, LTTE is a bunch of animals who will never understad civilized languages. So, we should speak their language. Unfortunately the vocabulary is bullets.

THE_ACA_USR wrote:

Call it with a small change:
Not only Pakistan, but the whole SAARC region should get together to send the message to the GOSL that there are better ways to solve problems (than begging for militar help).

Initiate a solution before devlop military. If you find a solution then no need of the arm business.

LTTE too is trying to solve the problem with strengthening militarily.  They are armed to teeth. Beside, they smuggle military hard wear whenever they can.  They come to the negotiation table with strength.  Like manner GOSL should negotiate with bloodthirsty LTTE terrorists with strength not being a weak position.  GOSL should also call shots.

Terrorism should be irradiated.  If it good for USA, UK it is good for Sri Lanka too. That is why SAAK should help GOSL:twisted:

Call wrote:

Normal people will understand Democratic solutions. We already have given a lot of solutions for the education, health, food etc., for them. Do you know that the GOSL did not stop supporting the whole education and health system amidst all these terror work of the LTTE? That is for the normal people who desrve it. But, LTTE is a bunch of animals who will never understad civilized languages. So, we should speak their language. Unfortunately the vocabulary is bullets.

Oops. Democratic solutions???? do u mean GOSL follow democratic solutions by killing innocent tamils through various riots, killing innocent students as they did in trinco, rape and kill young women as they did in jaffna and u call it as a democratic act.

Call wrote:

 we should speak their language. Unfortunately the vocabulary is bullets.

u do speak their language. the vocabulary is indeed bullets. but unfortunately the targets were civilians. whenever LTTE kills srilankan military, GOSL take revenge on civilians.

All military help has to be paid for and a poor country like srilanka is too poor to afford this luxury when it is being listed  economically as a failed country. Surely the best way forward is to find a soloution to the ethnic problem based on the indian or similar  model which the major powers who  fill our begging bowl from time to time have indicated they will support.

Call wrote:

Dear ACA,

Normal people will understand Democratic solutions. We already have given a lot of solutions for the education, health, food etc., for them. Do you know that the GOSL did not stop supporting the whole education and health system amidst all these terror work of the LTTE? That is for the normal people who desrve it. But, LTTE is a bunch of animals who will never understad civilized languages. So, we should speak their language. Unfortunately the vocabulary is bullets.

Ok. I will come to your way of understanding. As you say if ltte let down all arms and they come to normal politics with the tamils support in n-e. What is the difference we can expect from the GOSL? It was like that before 1983. There were elected MPs from n-e. Why don't you provide a (better?) solutions then? So, do you want to go back to 1980's stage. Do you think that tamils are that fool.
As many times I have said here, it is not the free things you are giving to tamils. GOSL is getting the tax from the tamils (even more than sinhala areas), as from sinhalese for the service. And if you don't give those service it is automatically bocomes a seperate country. That is why GOSL is doing the this.
In 1949 the doller value was 3.4 SLR. Now it is more than 100 SLR. Who said you have better solutions? (it was increasing even before the arms struggle started). If you have lived in n-e you might have learned the SLA's terrisiom and the language they are speacking for 25 years.

THE_ACA_USR wrote:

Call wrote:

Dear ACA,

Normal people will understand Democratic solutions. We already have given a lot of solutions for the education, health, food etc., for them. Do you know that the GOSL did not stop supporting the whole education and health system amidst all these terror work of the LTTE? That is for the normal people who desrve it. But, LTTE is a bunch of animals who will never understad civilized languages. So, we should speak their language. Unfortunately the vocabulary is bullets.

Ok. I will come to your way of understanding. As you say if ltte let down all arms and they come to normal politics with the tamils support in n-e. What is the difference we can expect from the GOSL? It was like that before 1983. There were elected MPs from n-e. Why don't you provide a (better?) solutions then? So, do you want to go back to 1980's stage. Do you think that tamils are that fool.
As many times I have said here, it is not the free things you are giving to tamils. GOSL is getting the tax from the tamils (even more than sinhala areas), as from sinhalese for the service. And if you don't give those service it is automatically bocomes a seperate country. That is why GOSL is doing the this.
In 1949 the doller value was 3.4 SLR. Now it is more than 100 SLR. Who said you have better solutions? (it was increasing even before the arms struggle started). If you have lived in n-e you might have learned the SLA's terrisiom and the language they are speacking for 25 years.

You are right when you talk about pre 1980s.  Sri Lanka has come a long way since then.  While saying that, peace loving Sri Lankans too do not want to live in the present situation.
If LTTE wants to create hovoc it is too not the solution.  Just because LTTE create problems it doesnot mean that GOSL has succumb to its demands through alian peace brokers like SLMM.

You are comparing Dollar value in 1949, the main reason for this disaprity in the war created by LTTE first by killing Tamils.  Again, remeber LTTE killed more Tamils than the Tamils killed by the SLA.  LTTE is the problem.  Get rid of VP and LTTE then peace loving people can talk.

[quote="Lokka"][quote="THE_ACA_USR"]

Call wrote:

Dear ACA,
You are right when you talk about pre 1980s.  Sri Lanka has come a long way since then.  While saying that, peace loving Sri Lankans too do not want to live in the present situation.
If LTTE wants to create hovoc it is too not the solution.  Just because LTTE create problems it doesnot mean that GOSL has succumb to its demands through alian peace brokers like SLMM.

You are comparing Dollar value in 1949, the main reason for this disaprity in the war created by LTTE first by killing Tamils.  Again, remeber LTTE killed more Tamils than the Tamils killed by the SLA.  LTTE is the problem.  Get rid of VP and LTTE then peace loving people can talk.

AS I said doller value went down to far below even before the arm struggel started. Just don't say that ltte killed more tamil. give us teh proof, if you have.
I just cut and paste the following part from an another thread. Juat thought to make sence if you read this.
I don't think you need to teach the tamils in n-e using a broadcasting service. Why SLA in n-e need to use a broadcasting service other than SLBC? Even DD can use a seperate broadcasring service from Palali, but what is he going to say the people? He is going to defend SLA killings? DD knows better than you. If DD might have raise his voice on the killings of 5 students, he definitely might have got multiple of votes, than what he has got now in trinco. But he just want to be a minister to serve people..... Ok. Ltes say we have all the freedom to work DD in tamil areas and even if the tamils vote to TNA, what is the different stand you are going to have? PLease tell me....

People in those area know very well as they are living for ages, than DD and you. You don't need to teach them. If ltte are kidnaping there children (as you say), then you don't need to tell them that through a telecast. Do you?
Also you safely forgot the killing of Joseph Pararajasingham (Batti) and Chandranehru (Ampara) by SLA/karuna (for some example).
This is not started now. Even before ltte came to the secne, there were tamil elected MPs from n-e. GOSL didn't listen them or not provide a solution to tamils, through them. Or else, in Thimpu talks, not only ltte other tamil armed orgs. were represented tamils. Why not the GOSL provide a solution then. You never understand or don't want to understand the tamils problem. If the sinhala goverments failed to solve the problem they created. They used each and every chance they got to solve this problem, they improved their own party or themselves. They didn't show the national interest. Still, to-date, they failed to understand this / don't want to understand this (because of self-image problem like systemx have-with pulithevan).  

As I said, you DON'T accept ltte. OK. you DON'T accept the tamils (voters) voice. OK. You DON'T accept TNA. Ok. you DON'T beleive the mediator. OK. You DON'T beleive SLMM reports .You DON'T accept ranil. You expect an ex-ltte member to fight for SLA. fine. You want muslim people to fight against tamils. OK. You run to India/pak/china to help you. Brought india to fight with ltte. After all what are the sinhalese in south like you, PROXIMUS, TARAKI(sorry you are not from the sinhala majority) are doing for the last 55 years? You just want to expect the ordinary SLA to die for you? (don't jump on me saying the I like oridenary tamil ltters to die, I don't) And many of you dont understand the reality, hence says that you don't understand our writings.

We tamils live(d), face(d), grew up within the problem from our childhood. We have the experience to say which aircraft is going to bomb in to a public place, from its noice. We have seen our homes burned in front of eyes, we have seen our family members/friends/relatives killed in front of our eyes. You don't want to teach us by reading the news from south/uk/us. We know waht the news and what the reality is. And still you don't want to understand us. You will not realise that I am still reading the pepers like lankatruth.com/lanka dheepa to understand your minds.

And you are writing/thinking this problem once it has come to your doorstep probably after late 90's. But have faced it even before 1980 (in my case), but dont realise and dont care about tamils probelm before that.
If ltte is doing things against tamils, why are you caring that? It is tamils problem. We know how ro solve it better than you. still you don't punish a single person for the 1983 riots which happened in the capital. Do you remember what JR said after the riotes, war for war and peace for peace. That is what you have here. You created the problem, so live with it or solve YOURSELF.

Also any of you who writes supporting GOSL, if you can prove that you have lived in n-e within tamil areas since 1980's I will stop writing here.

[Get rid of VP and LTTE then peace loving people can talk]

If the Sinhalese had talked to the peace loving Tamil politicians from the 1950's right upto the late 1970's then we won't be in this spot of bother now.

Back then Chelvanayagam and Amirthalingam were public enemies number one. What garuntees can you offer the moderate Tamils that has changed?

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[quote="THE_ACA_USR"][quote="Lokka"]

THE_ACA_USR wrote:

Call wrote:

Dear ACA,
You are right when you talk about pre 1980s.  Sri Lanka has come a long way since then.  While saying that, peace loving Sri Lankans too do not want to live in the present situation.
If LTTE wants to create hovoc it is too not the solution.  Just because LTTE create problems it doesnot mean that GOSL has succumb to its demands through alian peace brokers like SLMM.

You are comparing Dollar value in 1949, the main reason for this disaprity in the war created by LTTE first by killing Tamils.  Again, remeber LTTE killed more Tamils than the Tamils killed by the SLA.  LTTE is the problem.  Get rid of VP and LTTE then peace loving people can talk.

AS I said doller value went down to far below even before the arm struggel started. Just don't say that ltte killed more tamil. give us teh proof, if you have.
I just cut and paste the following part from an another thread. Juat thought to make sence if you read this.
I don't think you need to teach the tamils in n-e using a broadcasting service. Why SLA in n-e need to use a broadcasting service other than SLBC? Even DD can use a seperate broadcasring service from Palali, but what is he going to say the people? He is going to defend SLA killings? DD knows better than you. If DD might have raise his voice on the killings of 5 students, he definitely might have got multiple of votes, than what he has got now in trinco. But he just want to be a minister to serve people..... Ok. Ltes say we have all the freedom to work DD in tamil areas and even if the tamils vote to TNA, what is the different stand you are going to have? PLease tell me....

People in those area know very well as they are living for ages, than DD and you. You don't need to teach them. If ltte are kidnaping there children (as you say), then you don't need to tell them that through a telecast. Do you?
Also you safely forgot the killing of Joseph Pararajasingham (Batti) and Chandranehru (Ampara) by SLA/karuna (for some example).
This is not started now. Even before ltte came to the secne, there were tamil elected MPs from n-e. GOSL didn't listen them or not provide a solution to tamils, through them. Or else, in Thimpu talks, not only ltte other tamil armed orgs. were represented tamils. Why not the GOSL provide a solution then. You never understand or don't want to understand the tamils problem. If the sinhala goverments failed to solve the problem they created. They used each and every chance they got to solve this problem, they improved their own party or themselves. They didn't show the national interest. Still, to-date, they failed to understand this / don't want to understand this (because of self-image problem like systemx have-with pulithevan).  

As I said, you DON'T accept ltte. OK. you DON'T accept the tamils (voters) voice. OK. You DON'T accept TNA. Ok. you DON'T beleive the mediator. OK. You DON'T beleive SLMM reports .You DON'T accept ranil. You expect an ex-ltte member to fight for SLA. fine. You want muslim people to fight against tamils. OK. You run to India/pak/china to help you. Brought india to fight with ltte. After all what are the sinhalese in south like you, PROXIMUS, TARAKI(sorry you are not from the sinhala majority) are doing for the last 55 years? You just want to expect the ordinary SLA to die for you? (don't jump on me saying the I like oridenary tamil ltters to die, I don't) And many of you dont understand the reality, hence says that you don't understand our writings.

We tamils live(d), face(d), grew up within the problem from our childhood. We have the experience to say which aircraft is going to bomb in to a public place, from its noice. We have seen our homes burned in front of eyes, we have seen our family members/friends/relatives killed in front of our eyes. You don't want to teach us by reading the news from south/uk/us. We know waht the news and what the reality is. And still you don't want to understand us. You will not realise that I am still reading the pepers like lankatruth.com/lanka dheepa to understand your minds.

And you are writing/thinking this problem once it has come to your doorstep probably after late 90's. But have faced it even before 1980 (in my case), but dont realise and dont care about tamils probelm before that.
If ltte is doing things against tamils, why are you caring that? It is tamils problem. We know how ro solve it better than you. still you don't punish a single person for the 1983 riots which happened in the capital. Do you remember what JR said after the riotes, war for war and peace for peace. That is what you have here. You created the problem, so live with it or solve YOURSELF.

Also any of you who writes supporting GOSL, if you can prove that you have lived in n-e within tamil areas since 1980's I will stop writing here.

Malli,
OK, as I told you Sri Lanka has come a long way since 1983. NE has MPs before and they aired  their views in a democratic way.  You can have a glance at Hansard.  Now the  situation is anarchy and arms terror groups like LTTE & Karuna roam the are terrorizing Sri Lankans there. You like that?  Or it is the situation you want. Because, I see a Tiger tail behind you.

When You talk about Tamils, are you talking about the racist terrorists Tigers or peace loving Tamil communities?  GOSL is getting tax from every one comes under its jurisdiction including Tamils, Sinhalese & Muslims. Beside LTTE is taking Taxes from Tamils live in unclearned areas.

You are talking about the Dollar value in 1949. Why 1949?  Is it the year you were borne? Did you check the dollar values of other countries such as India, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc.? Why you blame the Governments of Sri Lanka for this.  There were Tamil politicians too serving in subsequent governments.  Then they too were responsible.
It is amazing you look at the Dollars alone. May be that is the only thing you value is the colour of money.  My friend, why you over looked other human growth indicators such as Literacy, infant mortality, life expectancy, etc.  Are they same as in your birth year 1949?  Why Sri Lanka have these figures in par with other developed nations.  Could you pl. explain this to us?

(We tamils live(d), face(d), grew up within the problem from our childhood. We have the experience to say which aircraft is going to bomb in to a public place, from its noice. We have seen our homes burned in front of eyes, we have seen our family members/friends/relatives killed in front of our eyes. You don't want to teach us by reading the news from south/uk/us. We know waht the news and what the reality is. And still you don't want to understand us. You will not realise that I am still reading the pepers like lankatruth.com/lanka dheepa to understand your minds.  )
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Who you are refferring to as we Tamils.  As we all know greater number of Tamils Live in areas out side LTTE’s so called home lands.  I know greater number of Tamils live in and around Capital Cities with the Sinhala population.  So pl. do not say all Tamils experienced this.  It is same with the Sinhala communities in border villages too, massacring hundreds of unarmed civilians women, children, old people, etc.  LTTE has killed even people while praying in churches and mosques. Do you think their
relatives, friends do not experienced & witnessed these atrocities?. When Tamils suffer so much, why LTTE continue to ride on them.  Why gang fights, extortion of money, harassing Tamils who talk against LTTE taking place in Western Countries?. Do you think you LTTE are so special?  We too know what LTTE backed Tamil news is. Then do not say to us too not to read it.

Pl\Read this also,

The LTTE also killed many civilians.. including Tamilians, Sinhalas and Moslems. You are saying this is OK ? And your argument is that every LTTE attack is one taken on the premise of "revenge" and nothing else ? Maybe you can tell me what the major LTTE strikes were and what they were in revenge for ? Perhaps you might start with the following 1. Tank farm, 2. AirLanka, 3. Kent 4. Dollar 5. The first strike (ambush) against  the 13 soldiers which gave the excuse for the riots in 83. 6. Massacres on the Muslim villages in the East and finally (7) the recent attacks on the Navy (with the truce monitors on board)...-----PROXIMUS

(If ltte is doing things against tamils, why are you caring that? It is tamils problem)-ACA

My brother (from the bottom of my heart), When CFA was first signed LTTE said Karuna faction in LTTE’s internal problem and GOSL does not have to worry about it.  Now with your god pa SLMM you beg, cry and force GOSL to disarm Karuna.  What do you say for this brother?

We are crying for Tamils because all of them are not LTTE. We also provide helicopters for wounded LTTE’s to get medical help.  We do this because we cry for them.  We are crying because Tamils belongs to Sri Lanka and not to LTTE!

I am sorry, you really demonstrate the banker political knowledge.  JR might have said that in a different time to suit his political ideology.  We have different politicians and they say different things.  As you know now we have the brand new ‘Mahinda Chinthanaya”.  If Margret Chather (Chatherism) said some thing do you mean still the IRA should kill innocent people?

Do not believe us.  Believe your God father SLMM, and see how many time LTTE violated the agreement.  Don’t believe us, read UNICEF reports about child solders.  Are these things right?  Do you know how LTTE took arms from Premadasa and fought against IPK?

You ask why Karuna is fighting for SLA. Again prove it.  SLMM too couldn’t prove it.  Karuna is fighting for his own course.  May be LTTE is afraid because Karuna get the support of Tamils in the East.
Eventually, why you singled out PROXIMUS and Taraki?  This is just because you guys do not like others to bring different views. Learn some thing from Taraki and PROXIMUS.  Specially, how to write, what to write and when to write.  For you, only the Bible is, LTTE Tamilnet which provide the truth as Hitlers Gobel!

Ask VP to follow the News about Charls Tailer. VP’s destiniy will be the same as Charls Tailor.

My friend, you are asking us to prove that we lived or living in N/E. Even one of us proved that, please, please, I beg you, continue writing because we enjoy it.

kanaga
Are you telling here that LTTE never kill TAMILS or Rape Tamil women?

Who are the innocent Tamils you mentioned?


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TAMIL

Hobbes wrote:

[Get rid of VP and LTTE then peace loving people can talk]

If the Sinhalese had talked to the peace loving Tamil politicians from the 1950's right upto the late 1970's then we won't be in this spot of bother now.

Back then Chelvanayagam and Amirthalingam were public enemies number one. What garuntees can you offer the moderate Tamils that has changed?

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Chelva & Amirthalingam are great politicians.  When you do politics you have people support you and talk aginst you.  It is same with the Sinhala politicians.  For example when Premadasa was killed by LTTE some sinhala people celebrated with fire crackers.  That is how it goes.

I like you talking about TULFＡｍｉｒｔｈａｌｉｎｇａｍ，　ｈｅ　ｗａｓ　ｐｕｂｌｉｃ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　ｎｏ　ｏｎｅ　ｆｏｒ　ＬＴＴＥ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈａｔ　ｉｓ　ｗｈｙ　ＬＴＴＥ　ｋｉｌｌｅｄ　ｈｉｍ．　　Ｆｏｒ　ｕｓ　ｈｅ　ｉｓ　ｎｏｔ　ａ　ｐｕｂｌｉｃ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　ｎｕｍｂｅｒ　ｏｎｅ．　　Ｐｕｂｌｉｃ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　Ｎｏ．　Ｏｎｅ　ｉｓ　ＶＰ

Lokka wrote:

Malli,
OK, as I told you Sri Lanka has come a long way since 1983. NE has MPs before and they aired  their views in a democratic way.  You can have a glance at Hansard.  Now the  situation is anarchy and arms terror groups like LTTE & Karuna roam the are terrorizing Sri Lankans there. You like that?  Or it is the situation you want. Because, I see a Tiger tail behind you.

Aiah!
mind your words first.
It won't take me long to say thet there is a orange clouth around you and no hair.

I just want to tell you a few thinks where you have shown you have no head.
I am not an ltte or I am not talking to them. I am a tamil and I just want to tell you what I know, which you don't. If you like take it or explain thinks to us, what what we have seen differently.
Can you show me where the ltte killed while people praying? have facts other than lankatruth or diviyana?
I can tell you there were 3 christian churches bombed by SLA (from K12 plane) as I know only in Jaffan. Just conact a South church member and ask for further details. Each year in those churches they have prayers for the kiled people. No need to tell about the Hindu temple distroyed. no mentioned on hospital bombings and public market bombings which killed people in dozens.
I was studied in Jaffna town school and our school students killed by SLA shelling from Fort during school hours, need details??
Don't just read lankatruth and write here. They will say exactly what SLA did as LTTE did (on killings etc.).

As I said tamils living south are not related to this problem directly, there is not much different between you and them.

I took the doller value from 1949 as it comes after indipendent of SL (forgot even this, hope you heard about it). Since you are asking what ltte did to tamils, I valued SL using that. This is the major messure for a countries development I feel. Other countries are having problem too but not like SL (even before 1980's). Even Burma is having 1uds = 7 mmk. Buthan is 44. Bangladesh is 66, india 45.
I live in Sri Lanka under GOSL rule. They are resopnsible for this. Even if ltte is the problem to cause this, gosl failed to protect us and fail to solve this issue.

JR exactly said the wording on the 2nd day of the riotes in 1983 in SL radio.

don't repeat the wording that karuna was with ltte when cfa signed. I explained this many times before. when karuna broke away, gosl (guys like attaulla, luxman kadir and now ww etc.) made this as an issue. If you don't hold karuna's tail, it wouldn't be an issue. Also ltte making this big because, they want to get hold of GOSL, thats it.  

I challenge you that you never lived in n-e in your life. Just don't lie. This one think is enough that you prove your credibility..

I don't like to waste time anymore writing you.