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The Academic
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 New moderate Tamil party recognized in Sri Lanka
Munza Mushtaq in Colombo, Thu Mar 23 02:31:23 EST 2006
A new Tamil party, consisting of some very senior Tamil politicians
has come into being. The party, Akhila Illankai Tamil United Front
(AITUK) has also been given recognition by the Commissioner of
Elections.The party which aspires to be a driving force against all anti
democratic Tamil political parties also envisages that the country's
two decade long ethnic conflict should be resolved through a federal
solution in a united Sri Lanka.
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Full Story
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:30 pm |
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raguna
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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If the real intension is to form a democratic parthy, then most of his members may come from his former party (EPDP)
because it is the most anti-democratic Tamil party in SL.
But the problem with this story lies in the second paragraph
"..The party which aspires to be a driving force against all anti democratic Tamil political parties also envisages that the country's two decade long ethnic conflict should be resolved through a federal solution in a united Sri Lanka. ..."
How is he going bring a federal solution? Even his former party claims to support a federal solution only!
The problem today for the non-LTTE groups is not that they ask a different form of solution other than federal, but the majority of SL doesn't support the federal solution. Yes , the majority! They voted for MR for a UNITARY state, not federal.
If he thinks that only a fringe group-like JVP,JHU- is opposed to federal , how is he going to counter them?
Why was he unable to do so during his long association , as an ADVISOR with EPDP?
What different advise is he giong to give to his new friends to achieve this? His new friends are the "..top notch Tamil politicos such as former parliamentarians from the Tamil United Liberation Front, Eelam Peoples Democratic Party, Eelam People's Revolutionary Liberation Front, People's Liberation Organisation of Tamil Eelam,, North East Provincial Council members and several Local Authority Chairmen"
The reason he is forming a new party is to get a seat in parliament. When he was in EPDP he don't want to equate himself with the likes of Mathanarajah etc. With new party with retired old politicos he can project a 'Saint'ly picture.
One day! yes one day! you will see a picture of Anandasangaree, his ITAK boss from UK, the unknown faces of the defunct NEP officers, Mrs.Amirthalingam, old EPDP thugs standing with this Vigneswaran in center while the JVP , JHU and all the SL elite profs. and peasantry alike bowed down infront of them and give them a copy of the Federal constitution in his hands, wrapped in beatle leaves of course! What a nice day it will be for Mother Lanka!!!!
But this time no pulling them in a cart like they did for Sir.P.Ramanathan, it is inhumane and against the human rights charter of the federal constitution.
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:52 pm |
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hanumanth
Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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Ranil tried to bring Karuna's group to the peace talk. That didn't happen.
Now Mahinda is trying to bring the same group in another name.
All these will lead to war.
May the God save Sri Lanka.
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:14 pm |
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Janet
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hanumanth wrote:Ranil tried to bring Karuna's group to the peace talk. That didn't happen.
Now Mahinda is trying to bring the same group in another name.
All these will lead to war.
May the God save Sri Lanka.
WAR is the LAST THING the national leader wants now. He would bark loud, but will never go to all out war. Beacuse he knows very well, if that happens , he will be a 'Maveera'.
LTTE will hide behind the 'civilian forces' or 'agitated Tamils', and blow up some miliatry vehicles. This is the coward act they did earlier.
Because the National leader is so afraid of death, and he might very well be killed in he starts an all-out war, he will never do that. The GOSL knows that, and the SLA knows that.
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:07 pm |
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FedAuto
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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 US example
After seeing what's going on in Iraq and how mighty US forces get their butt kicked by rag tag insurgents,last thing GOSL and MR wants is to start a fight with LTTE.If GOSL things that they can defeat LTTE with all these billions of dollars defence spending they could have already done it.LTTE is just keep on growing and growing.This war seems to have no end
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:45 pm |
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Taraki
Joined: 11 Sep 2005
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Dear Janet
Janet wrote:WAR is the LAST THING the national leader wants now.
Sorry to disagree but all indications showed that our Leader was very well-prepared for a fight after Mahinda's victory. He had been ready for war even much further back until the tsunami forced a delay in plans. Karuna rebellion has demonstrated very clearly that there is a lot going on within LTTE internal dynamics that most of us are not aware of. Like it or not the Special Commander rebelled right when the LTTE was at its strongest and the US with Norway's prodding was telling Srilanka to negotiate along the ISGA. This is in stark contrast to the LTTE's cohesion in darker times, like IPKF intervention and Jayasikirui.
Our Leader wants war but this time He does not want to start it. Hence the attempt to provoke atrocities by the security forces via "people's" militias. It was a good idea until the anti-LTTE groups began to mow down the LTTE sympathizers leading to the mass exodus from Jaffna to the Vanni (if anything, this outcome demonstrated the priceless value of the "paramilitaries" to the security situation). With this ace falling flat, it is not clear whether the LTTE has anything else to influence things during the CFA other than its usual assassinations and threats of going back to open war (now would be a good time to call Thamilselvan on that).
If LTTE is in a weak position then Mahinda should be exploiting this instead of chickening out. Why were local elections postponed in Eastern Province. Is Mahinda waiting for the LTTE to get strong there again?????
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:21 pm |
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AnuD
Joined: 13 Aug 2005
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TARAKI:
WHY your almighty LTTE, if they are this capable and this confident that evrything is in place, is asking to disarm KAruna and to give security to political caders. They also went to courts regarding the EPDP taking over of VVT electorates. That is the home town of your national leader.
what you talk and what is happening does not match.
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:12 pm |
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XTREME
Joined: 01 Mar 2006
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It is (new political party to fight the right of tamils) in deed a very commendable step taken by the organisers of the party....
Even if GOSL / MR is behind this, thats the way the ethnic problem should be approached....not like LTTE.....as these rebels will never come to a possible agreement to a settlement of the problem. Past history proves this very clearly.... They put demands, so that the GOSL or the international community cannot agree to all terms there....and using that opprtunity, rebels talk about returning to WAR....its ridiculus......
LTTE have more faith in their weapons...rather than in a political solution....
This might be b-coz they like the tamils to be ruled only by them.....and thay know this is not possible by a political approach.....
This war has no end, therefore we tamils have to suffer all our lives.......never-ending game...
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| Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:41 pm |
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AnuD
Joined: 13 Aug 2005
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XTREME wrote:It is (new political party to fight the right of tamils) in deed a very commendable step taken by the organisers of the party....
LTTE have more faith in their weapons...rather than in a political solution....
This might be b-coz they like the tamils to be ruled only by them.....and thay know this is not possible by a political approach.....
This war has no end, therefore we tamils have to suffer all our lives.......never-ending game...
THIS IS THE TRUTH. BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE. WAIT ANOTHER 10 YEARS. TIME WILL TELL.
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| Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:01 am |
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tselvaranjan1970
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Quote:Meanwhile, it is reliably learnt that many top notch Tamil politicos such as former parliamentarians from the Tamil United Liberation Front, Eelam Peoples Democratic Party, Eelam People's Revolutionary Liberation Front, People's Liberation Organisation of Tamil Eelam,, North East Provincial Council members and several Local Authority Chairmen are said to be part of this new party.
There is a funny saying in Tamil, which says,
"KEkkiravan kEnayanaa irunthaal eli kooda aeroplane Oddumaam!" (It means that if the guy who is listening is a first class stupid, then you can even tell him that a Rat would fly an aeroplane).
Interested people can have a reality check of this new party, AITUK on the 1st of January 2007. Let's see where this party stands on that day!.
Why I like to see a reality check is that, there are reporters and media out there in Sri Lanka, which think that the Sri Lankan society is bunch of stupids with a very short memory (like the Tamil Actor Surya, in the movie Gajani, suffering short memory).
By the way what is the name of the political party Karuna and ENDLF tried to jointly launch? Was it registered or ....? OK. who cares...
Some anti-Tamil establishments are spending some more money... Go ahead and enjoy Dr.Vickneswaran! Tamils need people like you to waste the money of these anti-Tamil elements. After 1 or 2 years they will realise that there is no use of spending money for your party. And then they will look for a new guy instead of you. There will be a new party and a new reporter writing a news exactly like the above.
And then again...
"KEkkiravan kEnayanaa irunthaal eli kooda aeroplane Oddumaam!" (It means that if the guy who is listening is a first class stupid, then you can even tell him that a Rat would fly an aeroplane).
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| Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:00 am |
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hanumanth
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Who is afraid of war ? Is it the LTTE or GOSL
Damn shame, ( to fight a few thousand LTTE members with their own strength) GOSL is running around to Pakistan, China and other countries to get help.
Where are those Soorayas (JHU, JVP and Karuna Group). You guys just bark on stages only. If you have real patriotism and love for the country join the army and fight, not just shouting at high voice on stage just to get some applause. There are some participants on this forum to cheer you guys.
As the last writer said when there are stupid people, these political . too are well turned on.
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| Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:21 am |
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proximus
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hanumanth wrote:Who is afraid of war ? Is it the LTTE or GOSL
Damn shame, ( to fight a few thousand LTTE members with their own strength) GOSL is running around to Pakistan, China and other countries to get help.
Where are those Soorayas (JHU, JVP and Karuna Group). You guys just bark on stages only. If you have real patriotism and love for the country join the army and fight, not just shouting at high voice on stage just to get some applause. There are some participants on this forum to cheer you guys.
As the last writer said when there are stupid people, these political . too are well turned on.
And where are you cheering from ? A comfortable armchair in the West, no doubt. ? The way you are promoting an armed confrontation between the LTTE and SLA, it seems you are very generous about sacrificing the lives of the SL Tamilians. But I guess you should get your money's worth of blood sport for the monthly contribution that you make. It's probably better than any reality TV that you get to watch.
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| Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:33 pm |
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THE_ACA_USR
Joined: 22 Dec 2005
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 proximus
Dear proximus,
It is clear that many people like proximus living out of n-e are thinking that, the diaspora tamils are the one wanted the separation and hard line against GOSL. They think LTTE is grow up only because of these tamils in western countries and started the media fight against them.
It is sure the a lot of money comming from the western world(and NZ, Aus etc.). The proximus and co. are also living in western world or else in south. So, clearly they don't understand what the tamils in n-e are feeling (do they?). They get to know the tamils who are writing and runnign web sites in those foreign countries.
But I know if you take a poll in n-e and western countries, people in n-e are more and more against GOSL than tamils living outside(if you simply speak to some guys in those area you get to know more). And people in n-e participate in the war in many ways (that’s the base for LTTE grow up). They do not like the war but they have no option left, not because of ltte but the south does not hear their voice (and what the south promising them anyway???). Tamils in western countries are funding ltte because they have it.
This type funding is not a new in the world. Palestine couldn't come up if they didn't have foreign funding (of their own people). Even SL rupee value holding up a bit because of the foreign money (including tamils) comming in.
proximus you should think that if you speak against ltte that is not mean you are caring tamils problem. As you all are thinking that the people left SL long back do not understand the current problem in n-e, you are worthless. Almost all the tamils are still ties with n-e of SL in one way the other.
Say, if you born and lived in Matara and if you move out of your town 10 years before, still you know the area (if you have ties their) than the people living in Jaffna.
Tamils those who are living here and abroad by losing family ties suffering a lot. But south does not understand those too. Many does not like stay away from families and friends for long.
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If you are really against the war (which you feel is not good for tamils..), please call Champika Ranawakka and JVP first, rather than writing here. Or you better write them first (with your clever writings?) and come back here. If not, you better join them and get lost.
Finally a word about this article in TLA. India (ideally RAW) have a long term plan to divide n-e and wipe out ltte from east and impose a solution using these tamil party and karuna, there is no secret in that. JVP is heading the proposal from south. T vic, is an ideal person, as India thinks. This is what the latest development of JVP's war intention and the MRs silence politics means, I feel.
Lets wait and see, who wipes out who and how.
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| Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:19 pm |
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A MM
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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 New moderate Tamil party recognized in Sri Lanka
A. Maybe it's good news. It's a "moderate" party. And it's Friday after all.
B. Hmm....The news is actually datelined Thursday.
A. Maybe Thursday is a good day too. What's the name for Thursday in your tongue?
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| Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:23 pm |
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proximus
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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 Re: proximus
THE_ACA_USR wrote:
It is clear that many people like proximus living out of n-e are thinking that, the diaspora tamils are the one wanted the separation and hard line against GOSL. They think LTTE is grow up only because of these tamils in western countries and started the media fight against them.
It is sure the a lot of money comming from the western world(and NZ, Aus etc.). The proximus and co. are also living in western world or else in south. So, clearly they don't understand what the tamils in n-e are feeling (do they?). They get to know the tamils who are writing and runnign web sites in those foreign countries.
And you too, living away from the n-e, would be as disconnected as you claim others to be. Presumably because you are a Tamilian, you figure that this gives you enough currency to make claims that you understand what the Tamilians in N-E are feeling.
THE_ACA_USR wrote:But I know if you take a poll in n-e and western countries, people in n-e are more and more against GOSL than tamils living outside(if you simply speak to some guys in those area you get to know more). And people in n-e participate in the war in many ways (that’s the base for LTTE grow up). They do not like the war but they have no option left, not because of ltte but the south does not hear their voice (and what the south promising them anyway???). Tamils in western countries are funding ltte because they have it.
This type funding is not a new in the world. Palestine couldn't come up if they didn't have foreign funding (of their own people). Even SL rupee value holding up a bit because of the foreign money (including tamils) comming in.
Of course people in the NE participate in the war ! Usually as victims and because the war has been started without anyone bothering to ask them either. The have bo option because they are not allowed to have an option by those controlling them.
If you do some research, you will find that Palestine Territories has been funded to the tune of a billion dollars in 2005 alone, by Europe and the US (600M and 400M respectively) And until the recent ascendancy of Hamas, even Israel was pumping money to the PA. So your claim of Palestinians being able to come up because of the contributions of diaspora Palestinians is invalid. Sure, the civilians may be getting some money from their relatives but that's about it. Anyway, what's your point ? Are you saying that the contributions for the Final War is somehow keeping the LKR afloat ? If so, please explain how it does so, when most of the money is spent overseas in weapons purchases ? Do you imagine that the LTTE is shipping in flour, lentils and sugar for the Vanni Tamilians to eat ? Where do you think their measure of rice comes from ? The LTTE ? Where does their fuel come from ? the LTTE Petroleum Corp ? All this is provided by the GOSL and the South.
THE_ACA_USR wrote:you should think that if you speak against ltte that is not mean you are caring tamils problem. As you all are thinking that the people left SL long back do not understand the current problem in n-e, you are worthless. Almost all the tamils are still ties with n-e of SL in one way the other.
Say, if you born and lived in Matara and if you move out of your town 10 years before, still you know the area (if you have ties their) than the people living in Jaffna.
Tamils those who are living here and abroad by losing family ties suffering a lot. But south does not understand those too. Many does not like stay away from families and friends for long.
And completely bending over & spreading for the LTTE does not mean you care either. I have seen how the diaspora Tamilians are "suffering" with their new cars and houses and Nikes and ipods. It's a terrible sight.
THE_ACA_USR wrote:If you are really against the war (which you feel is not good for tamils..), please call Champika Ranawakka and JVP first, rather than writing here. Or you better write them first (with your clever writings?) and come back here. If not, you better join them and get lost.
If you really believe that Mr. Ranawaka has any kind of say in how a war may or may not be prosecuted, it clearly shows how disconnected you really are. As for my "clever writings" which you have now made clear you resent by your second or third reference to them, I am sorry you feel that way. I can only suggest that you re-join your free ESL classes and perhaps this time, get a native English speaker to teach you if possible.
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