Associated Press,  Fri Mar 10 08:56:35 EST 2006

    DILIP GANGULY
 
Associated Press Writer
 
 
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (AP) _ Sri Lanka's Tamil Tiger rebels still hold as many as 1,358 child soldiers, despite pledges by the guerrillas to free all underage combatants, the U.N. children's agency said Friday. The issue of child soldiers has come under renewed focus since Wednesday, when the government went on a publicity blitz by inviting newspapers to photograph two underage combatants who fled from rebel camps and took shelter with the Sri Lankan navy earlier in the week.

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- The Academic

What's new here ?. Abductions,kidnappings,drug running,murdering political oppornents and you name any dirt bag  and you'll find Tamils Tigers  are in the thick of it.  These Tamils can not survive  without this sort of behavior.

Where are those "peace loving "Tamils  now.taking any stand against the Sun God.

Please DO NOT post blanket statements of this nature.

Saminda says:

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These Tamils can not survive  without this sort of behavior.

Where are those "peace loving "Tamils  now.taking any stand against the Sun God.

Better mind your language Saminda. The sarcasm in your posting is quite obvious.

Remember, we need to get a majority of "these Tamils" on to our side, if we are to keep SL as one country.

As far as the "Peace loving Tamils" are concerned, are you blind (some people are blinded by racial hatred!) not to see that they are already taking a stand against Prabhakaran? If one loves peace (as you describe them) one is against terrorism and war. A peace-loving tamil, by definition, is against terrorism. That is why Kadir, Neelan, Rajini and many others like that were murdered by the LTTE.

Please don't be sarcastic about them. They need our backing.

May be you don't care. Your problem shows up as more a hatred of (all) tamils rather than a love of Sri Lanka. Your lot is as guilty as Prabhakaran.

I may be wrong. The truth may be that you are an LTTE plant working on an assignment to get them Eelam.



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Here we have:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61711.htm
This is the report released by US on March 8th 2006. TLA is not published this as a news, thats it. Check and see how many things you have to learn from your eleced (tax payable) govt. As I said earlier, there were lot of things going on in a war effected area. You should better understand them first before talknig like this.

Tamils might say, don't worry it is our business.

But, later when these people as grown ups start terrerize the country as criminals, then it will be everyone's job.

Because, there only learned skill is killing.

Better give them forged passports by LTTE itself, then they can migrate overseas.

Dear 'THE_ACA_USR" & other pro-Tigers,

The US department site notes all the registerd HR violations by the SL government. I dont' think at any point any SL Citizen will try to white wash the GOSL's HR track record. All races were penalized without a difference. This was a part and parcel of all sucessive governments of any party.

GOSL is aware of this and many NGO's as well as individual countries (like US, UK, etc..) have been quering about these issues as a whole or as individula cases. GOSL has responded for them since they are the govenment of SL.

But Tigers have been performing similar HR violations and every NGO makes a comment about it. But has Tigers taken note of it? This shows they are not democraticaly elected goverment and Sun-God is the man. He assasin, torture, terrorize, etc.. As true followers of Tigers, some are supportive of these acts (I know many are living world wide with luxary lifestyle's not knowing the hardship of the average Tamil in the North. Perhaps those expats feels that winning the homeland at the expense of their brothers blood is matters and they opt to fund the Tigers).

Let me re-iterate this. All these UN organizations and other NGO's are just making comment only. But other hand they fund Tigers handsomly as humanitaran aid. But all goes to Sun-God and his close associates healthy upkeep only.

Further it's worth to note that the US STATE website notifiys cleary GOSL's HR violations and they mount pressure officially many occations at GOSL. Then I WONDER WHAT AND WHO WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IRAQI WAR PRISONERS ????

As a "Peace Loving Tamils", my friends and myself, are always condemn the brutality, undemocraty, holding child soldiers, terrorism etc. in our way. It's a pitty that young Tamils in our calibre could not identify ourself as the brutality of the LTTE is  active not only in Sri-Lanka also in foreign countries. The "Peace loving Sinhales" should understand our stand and try to solidarise with us to finde some opening for the suffering of all Sri-Lankans without any differences. Please give your moral support for the democratical Tamil parties operating in Sri-Lanka (for eg. Mr. Anandasangare and his party etc.).

AnuD wrote:

Tamils might say, don't worry it is our business.

But, later when these people as grown ups start terrerize the country as criminals, then it will be everyone's job.

Because, there only learned skill is killing.

Better give them forged passports by LTTE itself, then they can migrate overseas.

Sorry to jump in Anu..
LTTE is facing thier biggest headache in European cities these days, not becuase of some 'effective' GOSL propaganda, but because of larger number of Tamils are turning against LTTE's terror. These are the people who can defeat the LTTE, and you have to encourage those Tamils. Else, you can go join with the LTTE and spread hatred.

If you pay attention, it is the Tamils who one time supported LTTE had became LTTE's worst nightmares. Karuna in sri lanka, and another British tamil guy- jayadevam, in Europe.  This guy is leading a very effective propaganda aginst LTTE terror in UK as well as in Europe-

Janet:

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irrespective of religion, any person who tries to identify herself with a higher status/ideology by mere association with lineage, is only driven by a sense of self-inferiority.
in fact, we should be compassionate towards them... "

This is not at all supporting LTTE or neglecting the efforts of those tamils who are trying to save tamils in SL. I just presented THE PRACTICAL TRUTH IN A SARCASTIC MANNER.

WITH RESPECT TO KARUNA, DON'T YOU THINK THAT IS A FUN STORY.

MIGHTY LTTE ELEPHANT and their henchmen BOAST everywhere that how mighty they are. But, THIS LIITLE MOUSE KARUNA has become  NUISANCE to the  LTTE ELEPHAT. Now they want the help of the enemy SINHALA DOMINATED GOVT AND THE SLA.         

AnuD wrote:

Janet:

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irrespective of religion, any person who tries to identify herself with a higher status/ideology by mere association with lineage, is only driven by a sense of self-inferiority.
in fact, we should be compassionate towards them... "

This is not at all supporting LTTE or neglecting the efforts of those tamils who are trying to save tamils in SL. I just presented THE PRACTICAL TRUTH IN A SARCASTIC MANNER.

WITH RESPECT TO KARUNA, DON'T YOU THINK THAT IS A FUN STORY.

MIGHTY LTTE ELEPHANT and their henchmen BOAST everywhere that how mighty they are. But, THIS LIITLE MOUSE KARUNA has become  NUISANCE to the  LTTE ELEPHAT. Now they want the help of the enemy SINHALA DOMINATED GOVT AND THE SLA.         

As long as you guys understand politics through the "ordinary meanings of the statements" issued by various political actors, you guys will remain innocent political observers.

Small problems like the Karuna group are part and partial of LTTE's life ever since it was established. It is now a 30 years old organisation.

Why don't you think that the LTTE is trying to use the Karuna problem to blame the Government and give troubles to the Government? Can't you see the trouble that the Govt is facing in the south due to its undertaking regarding the paramilitary issue? Can't you forsee the problems that are going to arise regarding the talks scheduled for April? If so wait and see how the LTTE will move its pieces. (Note the unusual calm the LTTE maintains and some new events that start taking place slowly in Jaffna.. read Tamilnet for news)

Before the Geneva talks I wrote in this forum saying that the LTTE is using Karuna problem for its own goals. Now some of you may see how the LTTE utilised the Karuna factor.

Those who still innocently beleive that the LTTE is truely asking the help of the GoSL in paramilitary issue, could look at what Thamilchchelvan said on the eve of the Geneva talks from the same hall. He said we dont think that the GoSL can fullfil its underatking! Yes...knowing very well about that, they have forced that undertaking to the GoSL. The LTTE is eagerly expecting the GoSL to fail in that undertaking. The LTTE has also successfully forced the Co-Chairs and some international human rights organisations to talk about the paramilitary issue.

Now sit and think back from the 2002s. The LTTE slowly started pulling the Sri Lankan Military Intelligence unit and the paramilitary into a shadow war. Yes the LTTE started it, but very slowly and cleverly. The LTTE laid the trap. Shadow war started. And now the LTTE is using the paramiltary and military intelligence issue to its benefits. Some of you guys not even looking at how all this shadow war started, are innocently talking here. Yes! Sri Lankans have a short memory and are also very good in beleiving the LTTE as a bunch of stupid guys. That alone is enough for the LTTE.

Time is going on guys. This week alone there were 3 major state building events took place in the LTTE's defacto state! Refer to news. Remember.. most of these state building events are irreversible! At any point of time in the future, if you want peace in this Island, you have to accept all those whatever built up, upto that point of time.

I once read that there are 3 types of people.

The first type makes things happen.

The second type watch things happen.

And the third type wonder what happened.

LTTE belongs to the first type. Some Tamil and Sinhalese intellectuals and politicians and a very few feature writers of the TLA belong to the 2nd type. Most of the other Sri Lankans belong to the 3rd type as far as the Sri Lankan crisis is concerned.


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"For a Nation to be free, it is sufficient that she wills it." - M. de la Fayette

TSELVARANJAN:

 Small problems like the Karuna group are part and partial of LTTE's life ever since it was established. It is now a 30 years old organisation.

THE WAY I think, this is a big problem for LTTE. If you say that is not so, completely wrong logics.


Why don't you think that the LTTE is trying to use the Karuna problem to blame the Government and give troubles to the Government?

IF You think, LTTE is trying to problems to the govt, with the Karuna issue, we are stupid for reasoning it that way. Because, LTTE's stand is very clear, if you follow it closely.

what Thamilchchelvan said on the eve of the Geneva talks from the same hall. He said we dont think that the GoSL can fullfil its underatking!

This is called REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY, BY THAMILSELVAM, So he thinks, govt. will be stupid to disarm Karuna.

 The LTTE has also successfully forced the Co-Chairs and some international human rights organisations to talk about the paramilitary issue.

Whoever what ever thinks, all armed groups are MILITIAS FOR GOVT. OTHERWISE NO PARAMILITARY GROUPS.



Sri Lankans have a short memory and are also very good in beleiving the LTTE as a bunch of stupid guys. That alone is enough for the LTTE.

We have a short memory. But, you need to think, by nature humans make mistakes, LTTE, though intelligent, they have hit the walls. THAT IS NATURE OF THESE POLITICAL STRUGGLE.

JUST WAIT AND SEE.

LTTE belongs to the first type. Some Tamil and Sinhalese intellectuals and politicians and a very few feature writers of the TLA belong to the 2nd type. Most of the other Sri Lankans belong to the 3rd type as far as the Sri Lankan crisis is concerned.

Selvaranjan:  Wait and see how intelligent people turn these things around. those things are not for discussion.

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"Wait and see how intelligent people turn these things around. those things are not for discussion".. (so get out of the forum)

This is clear that many people here are thinking that Karuna can make a big different by backing row and etc.
JVP is giving enough backing to karuna and both want the war. Similarly AnuD and co. Their mark is VP and I don't know they think that this can be achieved by a miracle. As t selvaranjan said, it has passed more thatn 25 years and many tried and failed in the war to defete Ltte. How come the sudden JVP and karna can win ltte by war suddenly.
I also said in many instances that ltte making move by taking karuna issue to trouble GOSL. In the first place why on earth ltte is asked to talk on CFA rather then a solution (here is the first failure GOSL made, to agree on that). The zero worth of JVP/JHU are big help to LTTE. Ltte can achieve whatever they want if JVP has power in south.

US also used the word para-military. Even JHU is talking the same way.

SLH-Saviour wrote "I know many are living world wide with luxary lifestyle's not knowing the hardship of the average Tamil in the North. Perhaps those expats feels that winning the homeland at the expense of their brothers blood is matters and they opt to fund the Tigers"

In the first place I am not a pro-tiger. I am writing my openion. If GOSL put forward a reasonable solution and if MR is firm on solving the problem that way, I can stand behind him, even if ltte is against it. But what is MR doing? He was promised at the election that he can provide a honourable solution within 3 months at office. And now he is holding JVPs tail and fooling the all people and himself. He has the power. In the all party meeting if he can propose a solution and let the south united first, then tamils can wait for a solution. But As usual he is doing politics, talking unitery state. As you are saying that I am a pro-tiger, I didn't say that you are licking MRs back. But you all have to decide where are you standing. what you like and the reality may be different.
Are you asking all tamils to support GOSL instead of ltte. Okay, lets say we are all tamils supporting GOSL. you can wipe off ltte in a short period. ok. whats next? JVP and JHU can form next government / perhaps Tilvin silva can be the next president.  
What is the solutions we are getting. we have to begin a new movement in a different name, thats it.

I am asking SLH-Saviour what do you expect tamils to do, if you don't want to give a solution to tamils???

We tamils are living within the war. Not like you all only thinks when killed solders are comming in the pack. And you just read the news and write, you can never get the reality if you don't live in the war effected area. Or you have to talk to people living in the area. But almost all of the sinhala media are getting the official GOSL news and SLA/reporters who are living within the army camps. They never verified the truth on those. Last week SLA has issued leaf-lets in Jaffna area. It says "Sri Lanka is sinhales country and tamils have to adjust to live in there. Norway and India will not help to get a tamil eelam. etc....". Few tamil media put these news, I just can verified with a phone call. But can you???? You all belive that the sinhala media thats the different.

Hi AnuD
Here's another one for you. I too made a phone call. My phone call says that leaflets were distributed by people wearing military-style uniforms but were not SLA.

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Here's another one for you. I too made a phone call. My phone call says that leaflets were distributed by people wearing military-style uniforms but were not SLA.
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Funny!
phone call to who? SLA officials? Can you verify this?
If people wearing militery uniform and can distribute leaflets in an area where 50,000 SLA is present? it is one army for each 5 meters of the area. It has been distributed in the mid town of Jaffna in a mid day time. Probably those may be kids who distributed the leafets, is it MR. proximus??

THE_ACA_USR wrote:

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Here's another one for you. I too made a phone call. My phone call says that leaflets were distributed by people wearing military-style uniforms but were not SLA.
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Funny!
phone call to who? SLA officials? Can you verify this?
If people wearing militery uniform and can distribute leaflets in an area where 50,000 SLA is present? it is one army for each 5 meters of the area. It has been distributed in the mid town of Jaffna in a mid day time. Probably those may be kids who distributed the leafets, is it MR. proximus??

Phone calls to the same area.. as verifiable as your own phone call.