Hindu,  Mon Feb 27 19:40:44 EST 2006

    COLOMBO: Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapakse's electoral allies — the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP) and the Jathika Hela Urumaya (JHU) — have rejected the Geneva agreement between Colombo and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) on the ground that it ran contradictory to the Government's position on the ceasefire agreement (CFA).

In Geneva, the Government and the LTTE agreed to uphold the CFA. Colombo also committed itself to disarming armed groups. This agreement, the JHU said, "is a candid admission on the part of the Government that there were paramilitary forces. If there were groups that should be disarmed, it should be the LTTE," the JHU said.
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Well the Chintanay's changing face was not a new thing. At the time of Election, MR had no option but to cling to any help that he was offered at any cost to beat the Satalite & her bro's ressitance.

He said 'YES' to many things and now he's showing the true face of those. Many people forecasted this as once he comes to power the other allies will have NO say but to complain only - just like Satalite's era. So history is repeating.

This is the problem SL faces. Whether it's Sinhala or Tamil or Muslims, always the politicians had taken the country and it's people for a ride for 55 years of independece.

I'm sure that MR too will spend his first 6 yrs . on many issues and then look for another 6 yrs term. Hope that at least a strong candidate from the UNP will be born to counter this.

Starting from the venu to the final terms agreed, every thing is a opposite what MR had been voicing. As of today Blood thirst Tigers are at a better postion than yesterday. Starting from building bunkers to lifting the travel ban in EU, fund raises in Geneva and end of the day arms procuments at Iceland and Norway addition to the dissarming of Karuna. In return they had agreed not to kill security forces and stop child recruits. What a balance sheet ?????

[quote="SLH-Saviour"]Well the Chintanay's changing face was not a new thing. [/quote]

SLH-Saviour - are you accusing MR of being deceitful? Are you saying that he knew that he would have to maintain the status quo that RW maintained and yet he made all sorts of promises solely for the purpose of coming into power?

I think that he had every intention of sticking to his promises and implementing the hard line to the best of his ability. He probably did not have the maturity and wisdom earlier on to understand that there are more powerful elements he has to oblige than his own JHU and JVP.  JHU and JVP can afford to talk as they don’t have to generate wealth to run the country. Give them the responsibility and they will either change their tune or turn us into a modern day Ethiopia.

If MR had any practical way of acceding to JVP JHU demands as well as be able to run the country, would he not have done it? Why is he risking the wrath of his faithful supporters; those who are more loyal to him than even those of his own party?  

It took an Anton Balasingham who lives in England to tell VP that facing the international community is very different to being a king in the Vanni. The same reality has to be drubbed into the JVP and JHU.

Agree on SLH-Saviour on the point all politicians from independance never put well being of our country as priority. Their personal & political gains been always the top priority for the politicians. And it is not going to change either.

JayPee wrote:

I think that he had every intention of sticking to his promises and implementing the hard line to the best of his ability. He probably did not have the maturity and wisdom earlier on to understand that there are more powerful elements he has to oblige than his own JHU and JVP.  JHU and JVP can afford to talk as they don’t have to generate wealth to run the country. Give them the responsibility and they will either change their tune or turn us into a modern day Ethiopia.

True about MR & JVP.
"JHU and JVP can afford to talk as they don’t have to generate wealth to run the country."
But JVP & JHU are on more on long term political & personal objective of coming to power by dragging this ethnic problem. If the ethnic problem resolved by Ranil or Mahinda the country will prosper and JVP & JHU donot have any breeding ground to achieve their long term objectives.

CBK & Mahinda is responsible for getting JVP & JHU much prominence getting them to join SLFP camp. CBK learned the lesson couple of years ago. Mahinda knew he will face the same problem with JVP & JHU but consciously aligned them to him on short term vision of coming to power.

CBK & Mahinda created these frankenstein monsters and keep on creating more.
This is SriLanka's curse.

The quibbling that is going on over sundry details of the CFA between the Government and LTTE and indeed among the subscribers to this discussion group illustrates the difficulties in resolving any issue without approaching it in good faith. The CFA is not a business contract but an attempt to reach some sort of arrangement that helps secure at least an interval of peace while the leaders on all sides rethink their positions. I do not think that it serves any purpose to dissect the CFA clause by clause or debate its legality or illegality. What I am afraid is that the Government and LTTE are buying time to preparing for full scale war. Prolonging the agony of the Tamils living in the north and east cannot be justified under any circumstance and both parties and Mr Erik Solheim should be condemned for their inaction in Geneva. This is not an academic exercise for the parties to digress and debate and argue about in workshops in Geneva, Oslo or elsewhere. It is unfortunate that there is an urgency which is not being recognized by the Sri Lankans and their backers abroad.

Any way the same 50+ lucky guys can again go to Geneva at Punchi Singho's (SL tax payer's) expense and enjoy the slightly warmer temperature.

Due to silence or the inability to counter-argue by the GoSL party in the talks the other side LTTE, Norway/Geneva will get the automatic approval to the peace proposals put forward by UNP 4 yrs ago.

It's not new for anyone who follows the Sri lankan problems for last 25 years. These people never change of their thinking what is good for the country. If they think they can beat LTTE in a war please let them try it. I am sure they will be defeated again as many times in the past. When you can't solve the problem by the war let we do it by negotiations and there is no way we can do it without LTTE. It's a stupidity of the these parties we are having a problem should be solved longtime ago.

[quote="surya"] These people never change of their thinking what is good for the country. If they think they can beat LTTE in a war please let them try it. .......................

 It's a stupidity of the these parties we are having a problem should be solved longtime ago.[/quote]

I think you donot have to worry about these people.  Usually there is about 10% of people in the society like this.  They chnge with time, but new ones come to continue it.  Few nuts continue with the support of new ones.  So we have to forget about this 10% and obey the 90%.

Even among Tamils there is hard core some % who think, no sulution without EElam no?  

Even you allow them to go to war, nobody of them will go to war, our poor boys will die.
MR is gradually taking Ranils track, Gradually JVP/JHU obey or Mahinda will kick them out.
Now the election is over no?
Anyway by the comming election everybody will come to know the strength of them selves.  So at least the voice will become less.   (Definetely JHU will be wiped away, JVP will also will not get what they expect)


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MR is a practical man.  Changes his tuneto the situation. Very realistic person.   Chanthanaya cannot be constant.  Is human nature.. to change the mind - Chinthanaya etc....


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My friends frm the south let do peace and not war.
Give what the tamils need (federal) and all can live happly ever after. But if you still think taking on the tamils again then so be it. get it done. and solve it. Let your polition know that masses are not fools.
(statement by SLG about the CFA being amended. what amenmends were made).It is serious time to solve the problem by talks failing this it will lead to war and seperation.

JayPee wrote:

SLH-Saviour wrote:

Well the Chintanay's changing face was not a new thing.

It took an Anton Balasingham who lives in England to tell VP that facing the international community is very different to being a king in the Vanni. The same reality has to be drubbed into the JVP and JHU.

... and it looks like MR the Naive is finding out that facing the international community and the LTTE's nimble negotiators is very different to being a king in the Sinharaja.

surya wrote:

It's not new for anyone who follows the Sri lankan problems for last 25 years. These people never change of their thinking what is good for the country. If they think they can beat LTTE in a war please let them try it. I am sure they will be defeated again as many times in the past. When you can't solve the problem by the war let we do it by negotiations and there is no way we can do it without LTTE. It's a stupidity of the these parties we are having a problem should be solved longtime ago.

You are right. People never change. That is one of the causes of this prolonged issue.
Figure out that LTTE too is in the club. Both parties need to grow up to be moderate and see the real issues without living in the history pointing fingers at each other.

This war is between handful of extremist people.  This is a war between two evils.
What the wise moderate man needs is a land which provides a peaceful life; a life at least meets their minimum requirements – food, shelter, clothes, and good schools ….

JVP and JHU have a right to express their view in this regard ! after all they are not the ones who are armed and kill for political resons. it is up to the general public to decide their fate in the next election.

nowar wrote:

JVP and JHU have a right to express their view in this regard ! after all they are not the ones who are armed and kill for political resons. it is up to the general public to decide their fate in the next election.

We are living in a 3rd world country where parties like JVP and JHU will become more and more populare and wait and see what is going to happen in the next election. Specially in SL it is a big problem and it might need decades to turn people to a right thinking way. We are not livingin US/UK/Canada to vote people who work for them. Here we vote to the people who can show more do nothing or do verse.

nowar wrote:

JVP and JHU have a right to express their view in this regard ! after all they are not the ones who are armed and kill for political resons. it is up to the general public to decide their fate in the next election.

JVP & JHU can have their own views. How many time we have to wait for next election ? Every election another new JHU, JVP , Cats, bulls comes with their own views. Those cats, bulls not worried about country other than their own political future.
20 million people paying the price for last 25 years for the views of cats & bulls. It is time cats & bulls make country as priority ahead of their own views.
That's real patriotism.