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The Academic
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 Tories would list tigers as terrorists
National Post, Wed Jan 18 22:26:47 EST 2006
TORONTO - A Conservative government would add the Tamil Tigers to Canada's list of outlawed terrorist groups, deputy leader and public safety critic Peter MacKay said yesterday.
"The short answer is yes," he said when asked by the National Post if the Tamil Tigers would be listed if the government changed on Monday. "We would list them."
The Conservative party would also act swiftly to deport accused terrorists such as alleged former Tamil Tiger fundraiser Manickavasagam Suresh.
Mr. Suresh was arrested for deportation 10 years ago, but still lives near Toronto.
"In fact, we have in our platform that there's a need to move quickly on the reduction of the backlog that is there right now for unexecuted deportation orders, including Suresh," he said.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:27 am |
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Janet
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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Location: Kilinochchi
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Outlawing LTTE in Canada is LONG overdue. This leader is right on,in saying they do not see the Tiger Terrorists and the Tamils in Canada as same.
LTTE's days are numbered.
Apart from from Suresh Manickavasam, there are number of other LTTE fund-raisers in Canada who deserve to be deported..
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:20 am |
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kunju
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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On election platform they all say things...just like MR/JVP/JHU said that they will chase away norway, amend CFA...blal..bla.
Tories are a pro-white anti-imigrant western canada based party. They have no support at all in Ontario where most of the immigrants are based. Just like MR alinated minorities to win sinhala budhist votes, Tories are alinating migrants to get the pro-white votes.
So he can draw a line between tamils & LTTE..........may be he can share that knowledge to the SL govt, who always had problem in doing that.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:39 am |
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SLH-Saviour
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
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Two things for Kunju...
First it's nice to see that there are politicians just like SL, who promise sun and the moon to get power. We've been always given perfect expamples from the western world about their ways compared SL. So it's a new enlightment.
Second, No country should allow forgeing terrorist to make a mokery in their towns. On the other hand each country should protect their cournty and people either they are white or black or brown. Seeking asylum and then extorting money for Tigers is a crime that any country should discourage. Bringing racism to Canadian contex looks that Tigers are running out of ammo to fire.
Tamils are tamils. Tigers are tigers (terrorists). Tamils or any one else supporting Tigers are Terrorists.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:35 am |
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boogieman
Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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kunju wrote:On election platform they all say things...just like MR/JVP/JHU said that they will chase away norway, amend CFA...blal..bla.
Tories are a pro-white anti-imigrant western canada based party. They have no support at all in Ontario where most of the immigrants are based. Just like MR alinated minorities to win sinhala budhist votes, Tories are alinating migrants to get the pro-white votes.
This is the same argument proLTTE rodents use to justify LTTE atrocities in SL. Guess they are using the same procedure in Canada.
Kunju, How hard you try to say otherwise, LTTE is a (terrorist) problem, and it's high time to take stern action against LTTE.
(FYI, LTTE/proLTTE are all the same, either way, they will destroy the Tamil community in SL).
kunju wrote: Tories are alinating migrants to get the pro-white votes.
Don't try to misinterpret action against LTTE as actions against the Tamils.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:40 am |
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THE_ACA_USR
Joined: 22 Dec 2005
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In toronto there is a Tamil candidate running for Conservertive. In another TV interview, a tory candidate from toronto said that they will consider the Tamils problem in a more concern way then the current govt. e.g. directly funding the the N-E tsunami etc.
This is a election speech (both). The real face of the govt. will be shown later, if they could form a govt. It is very very unlikely that the tories would form a majority govt. They could align with NDP and they are very well supported by the minorities in Canada. (If that is happened then people in South will understand who is tamil and who is LTTE. Better they know that, because of GOSL tamils have to move to other countries by leaving their homes and relations etc.)
Also if a new govt. takes hard action against LTTE/Tamils, there will be a hugue problem they will face in Toronto as more then 300,000 SL Tamils here are a very firm community.
A funny thing here is that many people here in the forum are like JVPers (Just Visar Poniyangal) are caring very much about Tamils too much. They are angry on LTTE because LTTE is killing Tamils.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:05 am |
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kunju
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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SLH-Saviour wrote: Seeking asylum and then extorting money for Tigers is a crime that any country should discourage.
Why dont you all accept the truth that all the money coming from canada is not thru extortion. There are enough tamils willingly contributing to LTTE. As far as they are concern LTTE is a freedom movement, not terrorists. Let the history decides which is corect.
The history shows that one time terrorist nelson mandela was considered freedom fighter & given a noble prize too.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:25 am |
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bweera
Joined: 06 Jun 2005
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THE_ACA_USR wrote:In toronto there is a Tamil candidate running for Conservertive. In another TV interview, a tory candidate from toronto said that they will consider the Tamils problem in a more concern way then the current govt. e.g. directly funding the the N-E tsunami etc.
This is a election speech (both). The real face of the govt. will be shown later, if they could form a govt. It is very very unlikely that the tories would form a majority govt. They could align with NDP and they are very well supported by the minorities in Canada. (If that is happened then people in South will understand who is tamil and who is LTTE. Better they know that, because of GOSL tamils have to move to other countries by leaving their homes and relations etc.)
Also if a new govt. takes hard action against LTTE/Tamils, there will be a hugue problem they will face in Toronto as more then 300,000 SL Tamils here are a very firm community.
A funny thing here is that many people here in the forum are like JVPers (Just Visar Poniyangal) are caring very much about Tamils too much. They are angry on LTTE because LTTE is killing Tamils.
If a Tamil is running for Conservative Party he must be a LTTE supporter who thought ahead of time in case if Tories win he would be able to change Tories plan on banning LTTE.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:26 am |
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kunju
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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[quote="boogieman "
Kunju, How hard you try to say otherwise, LTTE is a (terrorist) problem, and it's high time to take stern action against LTTE. (FYI, LTTE/proLTTE are all the same, either way, they will destroy the Tamil community in SL). .
[unquote]The tamil community in SL already being destroyed thanks to british rule & sinhala racism. LTTE is just doing the final touches. The real jafna tamils are gone & what we have now in jaffna is a violent racial ethnic community
[quote=" boogieman"
Don't try to misinterpret action against LTTE as actions against the Tamils.[/quote]
[unquote]If SL forces & sinhala racist was able to differenciat LTTE & tamils , we wont be in this state. After the death 13 army in 1983, if they searched for the LTTE who did it, instead of killing tamils in jaffna & colombo, there wont be a world's most ruthless terrorist movement born out of once peace loving tamils.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:33 am |
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FedAuto
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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LTTE will always have Tamils support as long as Sri Lankan state sponsored terrorism against innocent tamils continues.If govt wants to defeat LTTE ,they have to win ordinary tamil's heart.This is not going to happen anytime soon.Recent massacre of 5 young tamils in trinco and subsequent attempt to cover up the incident by military shows govt has not learned anything from the past.Canada's ban will not affect LTTE as many want to believe.These politicians would say anything to get votes like Bush did in US.He declared that mission accomplished but US milirary still losing people in Iraq.
LTTE like in the past will find some other ways to fund their organization.Italian/cicilian Mafia,Chinese Triads and Japanese Yakuza are still exist and thriving despite many countries attempt to crush them.It's not easy to destroy organization like LTTE with the ban since tamils are very closed community.They will still fund LTTE until govt offer reasonable solution..Tamils want peaceful solution but without LTTE and Govt's geniune efforts,there will no peace in the near future.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:35 am |
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SANSPACE
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Reading that article on that site took me to the site http://www.tamilcanadian.com/eelam/ and I started reading an article from an Indian perpective. It had some interesting lines which I find are strangely true
"It is becoming more and more obvious there is no political solution for Tamils apart from the establishment of an independent homeland. Too much atrocities have been committed against Tamils for them to trust the Sinhala ruling regime in Colombo. There is no fundamental antipathy between the Sinhala and Tamil masses, only Eelam would be able to heal the wounds of these two great nationalities."
There is a distinction being made between the Sinhalese people and the Sinhalese ruling regime. This and the ending line of this articles - 'heal the woulds of these two great nationalities' makes me think that if it wasnt for the politicians, this problem would not have arisen in the first place. Tamil and Sinhalese people interact at Colombo on a daily basis and I hope the politics of the country will keep it that way. There is no point in blaming the LTTE and no point in thinking that most Tamil people do not support the LTTE. It is not as though there are other organizations representing the Tamil people in a relevant way (for what ever reason). That is reality as it exists today. The sooner the government enters into committed negotiations with the LTTE, the better for all parties involved.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:06 am |
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rawana
Joined: 21 Dec 2005
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lot of countries are now banning ltte. but there aim is to pressurise them to come to a peaceful solution.that the is their message. we shouldnt misunderstand it as a green light for a war wt ltte. mr/jvp should give up the unitary state concept & give the federal solution to tamils.
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:07 pm |
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lankaputhra
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
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Location: Far East
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 Ban the LTTE, Kick the Norway out ....etc..etc
Many countries have banned LTTE in the recent past.
But - what have they really done? Have they rounded up LTTEers in thousands and deported(SL citizen with ltte links) to SL to face prosecution by GOSL?
I think all these are political gimmics in western countries - they are only giving some warning to ltte activists - like " Ok guys, you may do your things - but be careful ! Understand? " etc...
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:13 pm |
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rawana
Joined: 21 Dec 2005
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:12 pm |
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priantha
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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 Here We Go Again
As soon as LA had found a report and copied in on this site, the usual bashings had started.
Those who cannot say anything of substance, but simply call LTTE terrorists, in so many different words, are continuing with their rhetoric.
Can't these respondents say something of substance/advice that could help this poor country to get out of this mess.
Of course thare are always some media in every country who have an axe to grind against LTTE. The National Post is one of them, in Canada. They possibly had one conservative friend who may have said something in conversation (in the bar)which they have used to make juicy report.
What is the big deal?
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| Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:00 pm |
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